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| SurvivorsUnite at Sucks |
October
26, 2009: After dropping various hints about the outcome
of S20 (which we're far too lazy to compile, along with those
of others), SurvivorsUnite posts the entire Heroes
vs. Villains bootlist, in a series of pictures at Sucks. Normally,
we'd object to giving away the entire boot order before the cast
list is even officially announced, but he gets points for being
concise. So, here is SU's bootlist, links go to his individual
posts at Sucks:
Pre-jury boots, in order: 1. Sugar; 2. Stephenie, 3. Randy, 4.
Cirie, 5. Tom, 6. Tyson, 7. James, 8. Boston Rob
Jurors, in order of finish: 12th place: Coach; 11th place: Courtney;
10th place: JT; 9th place: Amanda; 8th place: Candice; 7th place:
Danielle; 6th place: Rupert; 5th place: Colby; 4th place: Jerri
Final three: Russell finishes third. Winner is either Parvati
or Sandra*.
*Note: SurvivorsUnite says that he's also told two Sucks posters
the winner's name, and that they will reveal that at a later
date. Scrambling to avoid complete scoopage, missyae (who'd previously
claimed "Sandra doesn't do very well") promptly announces that
the winner is Sandra.
*Yawn*. Only eight months until S21 starts filming, assuming
CBS renews the show.
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September 19-20, 2009: Note to CBS/SEG - we're
sure it's a completely random coincidence that this flood of
info came right as the S20 cast and crew returned home. Nothing
to see here, move along....
For the non-SEG people still reading, a flood
of alleged "spoilers" on people getting booted in S20
made the rounds this weekend. We were going to hold off and verify
them before putting them up here, but there are so many of them,
we're starting to lose track of who said what. Hopefully, we'll
be able to refute or confirm at a later date. Until then... a
brief compendium:
- garyw at
Sucks (9/19, 3:56 pm): "LA cast dominate the season! Jerri at
least makes merge. The cast know russell is a +%!% now so I'm
guessing he plays the same character in s20."
- somerandomdouche at
Sucks (9/19, 7: 52 pm): "gary's right, and i'll add to it.. james
gets evacuated again, cirie and tom out before the merge, sugar
and steph are the first two out."
- garyw at
Sucks again (between threats and various insults, 9/19, 9:44
pm): "steph and rob are voted out before the dominating Micronesians." And
here, "At this stage I can say Boston rob definetely does not
win or make the merge."
Parts of the following (greyed out) are inaccurate:
| - somerandomdouche then
(9/20, 11:32 am) asserts the
dominant alliance as "it's parv-amanda-courtney-danielle.
cirie is out before the merge." |
- FranklinBluth (9/22, 3:30 pm) uploads a screenshot of a facebook
discussion between Cirie and Randy, showing essentially that
Cirie added Randy as a friend after getting back, with Randy
making a couple of comments on Cirie's wall on Sunday, 9/20.
- missyae (9/29, 9:19 pm): starts the "Evil Alliance" thread,
says Russell H and Parvati do very well together
- (7:37 pm):
"Rob does leave pre jury. His style of play did not work this
time."
- (7:39 pm):
"Someone asked about Parvati - if you like her - you will like
Survivor 20. Once again she knew to attach herself to."
- (10:13 pm):
"Amanda... does well for herself." and "Did I mention how dumb
of a move J.T. made to the Evil One?"
- (10:32 pm): "Merry Christmas to the Russell
Haters because they get a back to back dose of him going far."
- SurvivorsUnite (10/3, 12:28 a.m.): "Jenna Morasca was indeed
out there on location, interviewing (thats all) all the Villains & Heroes...btw,
it's VILLAINS vs Heroes, not the other way around.
-
On Natilie Bolton, she
was there and eventually cut on location.
-
Who
said Boston Rob is on Heroes? Nah, he's a Viallain.
- This "LA Alliance" does
NOT exist.
- Danielle DiLorenzo
is really, actually out there. I just personally didn't want
to believe it. But, yea she really is and she's a Villain.
- Sandra is indeed a Villain, while Candice Woodcock
is a Hero."
Also from SurvivorsUnite (same thread): - (1:16 a.m.)
"I think missaye said Boston Rob is pre jury, and he is. But,
not b/c of gameplay. His head was not in the game....he jst
had a baby=)
-
No former Survivors make any kind of an appearance,
and there is no what's your Survivor knowledge challenge."
- (1:23 a.m.)
"Missyae is wrong on James. There are NO medivacs this season...he
is indeed a voted out player."
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August
24, 2009: As threatened, we've compiled an extensive
list of popular ex-contestants who are not on Survivor
20, as
well as those we're unsure about (and those who actually are
on). Full list here (or through the Cast link, above).
Update: Complete cast list is on the Survivometer now, so this
is fairly obsolete.
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August
21, 2009: Pro wrestling writer Jason
Powell delivers the following, not particularly accurate
"news" (as posted by KidShacky at
Sucks):
 "TNA News: A female personality won't be appearing on TNA television
for at least a couple months
By Jason Powell Aug 21, 2009 - 02:42 PM
As reported on the Dot Net Members' website over two weeks
ago, Jenna Morasca will not be appearing on
TNA television for at least a couple months. She is currently
in Samoa working as a contestant on the 10th anniversary of Survivor."
Update: Oops. Looks like not so much. (What,
the pro wrestling press can't be trusted?) From
missyae at
Sucks:
"If Jenna was on she didn\'t last long. She was in Orlando,
Florida this past Monday night filming 2 weeks of TNA wrestling.
One of the shows aired last night and she was on it. The other
will air next Thursday night on Spike TV."
 It's true, as PleasantMama at Sucks noticed - she appears on
TNA Impact's 8/20 show: video
here on Spike TV's site. Even with a two-week lag, that
would have been during filming, so Jenna Morasca cannot be
on Survivor 20.
(Since this problem comes up fairly often, we'll try to make
a post listing potential and oft-rumored All-Stars who are
NOT on Survivor
20 fairly
soon).
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August
18-21, 2009: In a series of posts,
Sucks posters Dr
Coach Wade and Emcee Batley putatively name
the first four Survivor 20 boots. (Highlight to read,
don't click the links if you're easily offended by alleged
boot spoilers). Also note that we have not independently verified
these (yet):
- Post
1 (8/18): "Sugar, Randy, Danielle and
Rob are the first four boots. Not in that order. Take it as you
will."
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August
20, 2009: Sucks poster guatemala
fanfic produces evidence
that suggests
Survivor: Tocantins winner James "JT" Thomas, Jr. may
not be a contestant on Survivor 20, after all:
"New information suggesting that J.T. is not on after all.
Not "confirmed," but fairly solid.
Saying he was an alternate was my speculation to explain why
he's not on, since I do believe survivor300's list is fairly
accurate overall. Alternates still fly out to location, so
if J.T. did go to Samoa (as was apparently reported somewhere?)
but is not in the cast, then that would mean he was an alternate.
ALSO...
In looking into it a little more, it appears that not
only is J.T. scheduled to appear at the Houston Survivor Challenge
just after filming would end (Sept. 24-27), there's also a
new interview with him from the [New Zealand] channel that
airs Survivor. These are two additional strikes against him:
[This]
interview is
apparently from the future, as it is dated 08/21/2009, but
posted just this morning, I believe. I looked back at other
interviews and there's also an interview with Coach from 08/07/2009
(linked here)
If it was posted the day before like this one, it was really
from August 6, just after Coach would already be in Samoa.
Since that's before the game starts, it's possible he was allowed
to do the interview from Samoa so his disappearance wouldn't
be suspicious. Since the game has already started now though,
the only way for J.T. to actually do this interview is (A)
for him to not be on S20 to begin with [or to have been an
alternate] as I suspect, or (B) for him to be voted out already.
Interestingly,
Taj was not available to do an interview with them last week."
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August
11, 2009: A poster from the CBS site's boards, marynkids, reports
some ex-Survivors were seen together on a Pacific-bound flight:
"Looks like there's definitely an all stars coming up....my
sis in law's pastor was flying to New Zealand (he's been transferred)
and said the plane was chock full of "survivors". Even had pics
of himself and JT, but no one was talking about what they were
up to."
Two posts down the thread, marynkids adds: "Yes coach was there....I've
got a pic but for some reason can't post it."
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August
10, 2009: Sucks poster guatemala
fanfic adds in his
accumulated Survivor 20 cast info:
"Fine, I'll post the ones I heard were definitely on then,
since they're already on Survivor300's list: Tyson,
Sugar, Jerri, Courtney Yates, and Stephenie.
The only different one
is Sugar, although she was an obvious choice anyway and s300
may have accidentally left her off. I am expecting more information
soon, so I was going to wait until I had that but hopefully
it will match what s300 said."
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August
10, 2009: With filming safely underway, Sucks poster
survivor300 posts
a compiled list of alleged Survivor
20 participants.
Note that the list contains 10 men and eight women, so it's either
missing a couple of women or has extra men. Also, keep in mind
that one or more may have been alternates. But it's a good starting
point:
"Update...
Boston Rawb, Coach, Colby, James, JT, Randy, Rupert,
Tom W, Tyson, Male from Samoa
Amanda, Candice W, Courtney, Danielle,
Jerri, Parvati, Sandra, Stephame"
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August
6, 2009: Former Survivor: Pearl Islands and
Survivor: Micronesia - Fans Vs. Favorites contestant Jon "Jonny
Fairplay" Dalton, who really should have left already if he
was on S20, is on the "Rad
Reality Show," allegedly spilling
S20 casting secrets:
(We haven't actually listened to the whole thing, which seems
fairly painful because it combines a Big Brother discussion
with Fairplay, so we'll take the word of people at Sucks
about what was said, at least for now):
- Redmond:
"Hmm, Jonny Fairplay on The Rad Reality Show basically just
said that the cast fly out tomorrow night."
- Emcee
Batley: "Fairplay says Cirie, Rupert and Amanda are
in (him too) and that it's mostly 3rd
timers."
- tullfan2:
"No one mentioned this but the BB 11 podcast, Fairplay said
that he filmed a commercial for S20 with Coach and James."
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August 4, 2009: Former Survivor:
Panama - Exile Island contestant Shane Powers, who apparently
just missed the cut for Survivor
20 ("Repeats vs. Threepeats"), makes his displeasure with
being jerked around by casting for S20 known. A must-read. We
don't want to spoil it too much by over-quoting, so we'll just
tease it with the first sentence:
"This is the part where I tell you to go fuck yourselves."
Read more at Shane's
site.
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July
25, 2009: Survivor: Cook Islands contestant (and Candice
paramour) Billy Garcia drops by SurvivorSkills with an update
on the Discovery Beach Restaurant Survivor
Florida Party 2009,
along with some casting spoils, and a behind-the-scenes power
struggle over the future of the show between casting director
Lynne Spiegel Spillman and Jeff Probst. Highlights:
 "Those contestant that were cast for S20 that did not tell
CBS they were coming...well, CBS just played dumb and they
came! But the few that told CBS they where booked to come got
told to cancel! So Courtney [Yates, Survivor:
China] is a no-show...Told to cancel."
"Lynn Spellmen is showing her recruits favoritism. Basiclly,
if she recruited you the first time then your in S20. If you
audiotioned or where some one else's recriut...you're out or
not even asked! S20 seems to be a power play behind the scenes.
The scuttlebutt is that Jeff probst wants more stroke to call
shots or he may just walk. It's not about money! Lynn Spellmen
is hooking up too many of her friends at the expense of the
show and Jeff is NOT cool with it."
"More Scuttlebutt: Shane
is an alternate and he's pissed! Survivor will continue after 20 with a reduced
budgit so get used to back to back season being filmed at or
near the same locations from now on."
"Spellmen's being accused by some of the old schoolers here
of stacking the deck in recent seasons to help her recruits
get farther so that she looks good to CBS. The old schoolers(myself
included) are worried that S20 is gonna be the worst case of
that yet cause they are all gonna be her recruit and she can
just surround her favorites with the right people!"
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July
19, 2009: Longtime spoiler smokeitgood disorientedly
pops into LTS to add a set of S20 casting spoilers to the CobySucks
thread:
" -from what ive been told, the only black men asked to interview
were james and - get this - gervase [Peterson].
i figure thats who beatles was alluding to for someone from
season 1 being asked. i have no idea what his response was,
but it was probably no. earl was not asked even though he won
unanimously, i guess thats what happens when youre on the worst
season.
-there are still rumors of it having a fans/faves
element (as tdt posted in spoilers, since filming isnt starting
til august 7th or so, this can ALL change at the drop of a
hat)
-i was told that in addition to the winners
on cobys list,
JT [Thomas] , bob [Crowley]
and aras [Baskauskas] were wanted and asked.
(still have no idea what their responses were)
-in terms of the future of the show, the
rumors im hearing are suggesting that by doubling up the locations
and filming them back to back they saved a significant amount
of money and the series will likely continue past 20 with them
continuing to double up. until probst and cbs renew officially
though theres no guarantees."
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July
18, 2009: So he went and did it... CobySucks spills
the full can of beans (what was left after Clarence opened
it, anyway) on the rumored set of people considered for Survivor
20 (we've numbered and added last names to the list):
- 07/18/09 2:32
AM
"Okay, bitches tired of sitting on this info lol so I am releasing the
'list' of people I was told were asked, said yes and have the best shots of
getting on...
1. Tom Westman, 2. Johnny Fairplay, 3. Big Tom (Buchanan), 4. Shane (Powers),
5. Rupert (Boneham),
6. Randy (Bailey), 7. Ozzy (Lusth), 8. Coach (Wade), 9. James (Clement), 10.
Ace (Gordon),
11. Jean-Robert (Bellande);
12. Cirie (Fields), 13. Parvarti (Shallow), 14. Sierra (Reed), 15. Tina (Wesson),
16. Twila (Tanner), 17. Amanda (Kimmel), 18. Jerri (Manthey), 19. Jenna (Morasca),
20. Sandra (Diaz-Twine), 21. Stephenie (LaGrossa), 22. Natalie (Bolton), 23.
Sugar (Kiper).
Not asked- Eliza, Ami, Bobby Jon, Tyson, Judd, Katie...
Rafe was asked but had to turn it down...he is writing on a major prime time
show and couldn't leave.
I do believe Richard not being able to do it leaves a strong hole in the 'winners'
hero side...can't just be Tom. So safe to say Todd, Aras, Yul, Brian or Earl
would have to be in there too with all these woman winners mentioned. As you
can count I only have 23 out of the 30-ish people picked for interviews so
we will see... "
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July
12, 2009: The CobySucks S20 cast spoiling rampage
continues, unabated. To get the full story, read the whole
thread, starting with the link at right. In the meantime, recent
highlights:
- 07/10/09 2:17
PM
"Out of the 35 contacted for interviews and most of whom were in LA last
week for those interviews. Over 10 that I have heard of being
there were 3rdpeats :) YES over a 3rd of them contacted we have seen before...and
before *gag*"
- 07/10/09 7:08 PM
"I can tell you I don't think anyone from Gautemala is on
I don't know what they have against that season. I am not saying
people from that season weren't ASKED...just don't think they
are gonna be on. and p.s. no I don't consider Steph from that
season since she was a Villian cuz we all know they will stick
her on Heros which is from Palau."
- 07/11/09 10:14 PM
"P.s. Everyones lists are close but nobody has nailed it, few
more 'randoms' in there people are missing and to remind Judd
lovers...nobody from Gautemala. I know of one who was asked
but had to turn it down."
- 07/12/09 6:38 PM
"A Survivor told me that their sister was in LA a few weeks
ago picking someone up from the airport and had some extra
time on her hands so went to a hotel bar near by...
Who was sitting there? Shane. Hmmmm interesting was just sitting
a hotel bar 2 weeks ago :)"
- 07/12/09
8:16 PM
"The woman above [Ed.: Amanda Kimmel and
Parvati Shallow, final two from S16] were BOTH asked 'gag'
from what I was told. I could only dream I got invited back
just to dunk these 2 bitches."
Summary
of those asked, based on posts so far (7/35):
- Men: Richard Hatch, Shane Powers, Johnny Fairplay
- Women: Amanda Kimmel, Parvati Shallow, Natalie Bolton, Stephenie LaGrossa
(Of these, Richard, JFP, Amanda, Parvati and Stephenie
would all be third-timers). |
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July
11, 2009: Sucks poster tullfan2 notes
a press report by Providence, RI's Jim Taricani (WJAR, turnto10.com)
on Richard Hatch's attempts to
get an early release from his tax-dodging prison sentence.
Included is a (.PDF) copy of an alleged letter from SEG casting
director Lynne Spillman to Hatch. Full video, transcript and
doc links at the link above, right). Included highlights:
Dear Mr. Hatch:
SEG, Inc, the producer ("Producer") of the highly acclimated [sic.]
SURVIVOR television series (the "Series") which airs on the CBS Television
Network, would like to extend an offer in which you may participate in
the upcoming cycle of the Series ("Cycle 20) which will be filmed in Samoa.
This cycle is particularly significant given that it coincides with the
10 year anniversary of the series and your victory as the winner of Cycle
1 of the Series.
You would need to be available for principal filming on Cycle 20, which
is presently expected to commence on or around August 1, 2009 and conclude
on or around September 20, 2009 (dates may vary slightly depending on production
needs).... |
The filming start date fits with the alleged two week gap between S19 and
S20 filming (S19 ends on July 19th), although we note that the full period
covered is 51 days and not 39 days, so the actual start date should lie somewhere
between those two dates.
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July
6, 2009: Some former player who creatively disguises
his identity with the nic "CobySucks" hijacks his own thread
to go on a spoiling spree with Survivor
20 casting
rumors. Highlights:
- 07/06/09 9:09 PM
"...what do you guys think of this Heros Vs. Villians bullshit I am hearing
about?"
- 07/06/09 11:25 PM
"o you just wait...there are some coming back for the 3rd time you will
die over :) and not in a good way lol"
- 07/08/09 1:06
AM
"Yes, them maybe bringing JFP back a 3rd time *gag* who
wants to see that after such a major let down of Favs? I too thought it was just
'spec' the whole Heros Vs Villians idea partly because it is cuter in theory
than reality. I mean okay where do people like Stephenie fall?
Half of us would say Hero and half would say Villian."
- 07/08/09 8:54 PM
"So 'nugget' for today....there are NO gay people on it from what I hear.
And yes I said gays...no lesbos were even asked." (later amended to allow
that a bisexual, namely Natalie Bolton of Micronesia: Fans
Vs. Favorites, was
in fact asked).
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July 5, 2009: Sucks poster seltzer3 notes a
poker board-based rumor of a possible Survivor
20 contestant,
professional poker player Tiffany
Michelle:
"Just saw this on poker news, on the live updates.
LOPPER [26 minutes ago]
anyone hear the news? Tif d michele is leaving for survivior? |
Tiffany Michelle
was the girl got 17th place in the main event of WSOP last year. Its kind
of flaky post, since anyone can make it up. Then again we did have two poker
players on a reality tv show."
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Update (7/18/09): Chateau
d If at RealityFanForum presents a photo of a team from The Amazing
Race 15, which puddin identifies as professional poker players Mario
Ho and Tiffany Michelle. So Tiffany Michelle is not actually a Survivor
20 contestant, but rather a TAR racer. (Somewhat close, except she's on the
show that actually wins Emmys).
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June 24, 2009: (Hat tip to Sucks poster guatemala
fanfic): CBS officially announces their premiere schedule
for fall 2009, including the debut of Survivor
(19): Samoa (Follow link at right for full release):
"CBS today announced dates for the fall premieres of its
new and returning series, which include a pre-season debut
for SURVIVOR: SAMOA and the launch of the new Sunday drama
series THREE RIVERS in early October. The Network will introduce
the majority of its schedule beginning Monday, Sept. 21,
the official start of the 2009-2010 season.
SURVIVOR: SAMOA,
the 19th installment of the hit reality series, will debut
a week prior to the formal start of the season, on Thursday,
Sept. 17 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT)."
Note that this defines a cut-off date for filming of Survivor
20, since Probst will need to be back in the U.S. possibly
as much as a week beforehand, to do his S19 advertising
duties (teleconference, appearances on various talk shows,
etc.). We've noted this on the calendar.
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June 15, 2009: A Jeff Probst interview conducted
by Andy Dehnart of Reality Blurred confirms the back-to-back
filming of seasons 19 & 20, and gives a ballpark for the shooting
schedule of S20:
"“This season we’re also doing back-to-back seasons because
of budget cuts, and that’s just the truth. We are having to do two seasons
to save money, because every television show is undergoing some sort of a cut,” Probst
said. “And I think that’s going to be hard on people. It’s
a long time to be away from home. We’re gone nearly four months.
Six weeks was one thing; 14 weeks is another,” he said."
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June 9, 2009: As noted in a post by VolcanicGlass at
Sucks, Jeff Probst, apparently giddy to pimp his vanity show
(an attempt to one-up Ty Pennigton in schmaltzily exploiting
the misfortune of others for ratings gold) spilled the beans
about back-to-back filming of Survivors
19 & 20 in Samoa to the
New York Post (although, to his credit, few people would
say "If it's in the Post, it must be true!").
"Turns out that be cause Probst is shooting two seasons of Survivor back to back -- he's currently in Samoa, gearing up for the 19th season of the
compet ition show -- he "can't even start shooting [Live for
the Moment] until
the end of September, when I'm back from double duty on Survivor.)"
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