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The True Dork Times Indie-to-Postpunk Conversion Chart
Results may vary; conversion rate not valid in Vermont


By Maury Bund
True Dork Times Musical Exhumation Editor
It sure can get confusing these days, what with every other indie band tossing keyboards, computer-generated blips and beeps, or Fall phrasing into their mixes. Whatever happened to the days when indie rock was just a bunch of dissonant squalls of guitar noise, topped with pained, unintelligible vocals? Oh that's right, the majors bought it all up and called it emo. Never mind.

So anyway, in our continuing effort to help you figure out which band is which, we've used extensive mathematical modeling to align each indie band with their postpunk (or occasionally new wave) forebears. Use these conversions to plot future career arcs. Because those who fail to learn from history, well, you know. Or maybe you don't. Regardless, in no particular order...


Indie Band Conversion Factors Post-punk result

Conor Oberst, Bright Eyes
"Hi, I'm Robert Smith. You may remember me from such bands as the Cure. Let's go have a pint!"

Bright Eyes = The Cure

The Cure

Tim Kasher, Cursive
"No way, man, that's totally me. Have you ever heard 'The Recluse' back-to-back with 'Lullaby'? Maybe you should."

Cursive = The Cure

The Cure

Conor Oberst, Bright Eyes
"Yeah, well, channelling is one thing, but who do you think I got to guest on keyboards and lead vocals when I recorded 'Lover I Don't Have to Love,' eh? That's right, good ol' Uncle Bobby. Checkmate, Tim!"

Bright Eyes = The Cure

The Cure
Ah yes, the energetic chugging of keyboard-driven party music. Melodically barked vocals. An alliterative, internal-rhyming name. Best of all, radio airplay! It might be, it could be, it is...

Hot Hot Heat = Oingo Boingo

Note: There's nothing wrong with popularity, Steve, and it can lead to a fine career in movie and TV scores.

Oingo Boingo
The Strokes = Duran Duran

Hair first, music later. You so know it's true. (Okay, technically, they're not indie, but then neither are the Strokes).

Duran Duran

Ben Gibbard, Postal Service
Hmm, this one's a toughie. The closest parallel is Lou Barlow ditching Sebadoh to achieve radio success as The Folk Implosion, but that's about fifteen years too late (and ignores Jimmy Tamborello's contributions). So we'll go with Gary Numan, whose "Cars" drove electronic music into the U.S. the first time around.

The Postal Service = Gary Numan

Gary Numan
From the album covers, to the '60s pop-influenced music, to the twee vocals, to the lyrics, to the cult followings, this one's pretty bloody obvious.

Belle and Sebastian = The Smiths

(Not that there's anything wrong with that).

The Smiths
While the result is rather obvious, this one was more of a split decision. Obviously, if you've heard the music,

Interpol = Joy Division

But the NYC guys have moved far more units than the Mancunians ever did, at least while Ian Curtis was alive. So we thought, given the similarity in names, The Police might be a better fit. But they don't sound much alike, and we don't see Paul Banks doing Jaguar ads in 20 years. Wait, yes we do. Eh, screw it.

Joy Division
The Faint = Soft Cell

Yeah, you'd think we'd pick Vince Clarke-era Depeche Mode here, and true, the comparison is apt. But while songs like "Agenda Suicide" show the Omaha boys have the politics down, trying to corner the currently-defunct market on electronic dance music has it limits. (Plus, we also had to mark them down for supporting PETA).

Soft Cell
It would be fashionable to go with the easy Sonic Youth comparison here and be done with it. And while Trail do experiment, their punk-rooted songs and their live shows are the focus, and not so much the noise. So we'll go with the initially hardcore Minneapolis unit whose songwriting gradually carried them into the mainstream.

...And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead = Husker Du


Husker Du
Hangs out with influential local scenesters? Check.
Has a catchy, producer-driven disco hit? Check.
This one's pretty easy...

The Rapture = Dead Or Alive


Dead Or Alive

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